my new and old HIv labs and supision about HIV doc

Glad that you have investigated this , the world deserves the truth.

ZnZ Magic

Your research on HIV always make sense, thouroughly explained. My concern is the fact we have people getting sick and dying what is making people sick, why are people dying and what can we do? Am really sincerely asking this question not to disrespect or challenge any view but I would like know as an ordinary person. If you are told you are hiv positive chances are you will be sick at some point, wether 10year or 2months depends on individuals. Am not very intelligent when it comes to these debates but would like someone to please explain to me as an ordinary person why are people getting sick and what can we do? I get the nutrition part but I don't think people get sick because they don't eat properly there must be other explaination.


Siya

Hi Siya.

Nice one and the truth I am no expert just trying to fit the pieces together myself.

I am not denying a virus exists but I believe it is harmless and only shows itself once your immune system goes down and your immune system can go down for a number of reasons, just doing an HIV/AIDS TEST is enough STRESS to make you sick with depression a death sentence, it is in your mind.

From what I can deduct people are getting sick from eating just BAD FOOD for starters these days, see GOOD REAL FOOD .

People are getting sick from lack of oxygen, our environment in big cities is not the same as it used to be, GMO Foods and the rest.

If you recall in the early days of HIV/AIDS for starters it spread fast in the GAY community, this is put down to the fast lifestyle, poppers and other drugs+alcohol and of course if you give 15 blow jobs every other night in the bath house/orgies of course you are going to catch more than just a little cold I would imagine.

Were do our diseases come from, here is another theory. I am thinking now what about masturbation, is this really normal if you gonna watch porn which is like an addiction perhaps all day and ejaculate 5+ times a day say for a long period of time are you not wasting minerals and other good vitamins or nutrients supposed to go to your bones and other parts of your body, wasted sperm = disease, makes sense or, it certainly is not a natural activity I would say, exercise is natural but not watching porn and wasting your resources you could say.

How much research is there really, what about mobile phones and electrical power grids in built up areas how much damage are they causing, so you see there could be many co factors depending on were you come from, just the degrading of soil conditions in some parts of the world bring disease upon the population and is it all HIV/AIDS

In the third world, take Tanzania or southern central Africa where it was supposed to be deadly, HIV/AIDS was prevalent in a high percentage along highways and surrounding villages, my theory is that drivers on long haul had sex every day with different women from different bars say, and every morning they do not clean proper due to lack of water and they drive again from dusk to dawn without proper hygiene, the hot sun and heat would encourage not only HIV/AIDS but other sexually diseases would be transmitted, you get sick and HIV/AIDS is blamed, but perhaps some of these are just hundred of years old diseases and now they rename them AIDS, but are not all the associated disease categorized as AIDS old diseases.

I have starting recommending people do the parasite/worm protocol as you might have heard no research has gone in this direction for over 30 years + they only detect about 10% of parasites/worms, and what you get to deworm 2 or so a year is not efficient enough to deworm you and at the end of the day if worms/parasites are not killed or are even killed but their waste ends up in your head trying to get out meaning that you going to have something that your normal doctor does not really have the experience to deal with and as long as you HIV positive they only gonna put you on ARVs after their antibiotics dont work and the ARVs gonna kill you.

This is why I think answers are probably easier to get on the street, people being healing themselves for centuries of nastier things I presume.

In Kagera region, Tanzania/Uganda which was supposed to be an epi center of the deadly disease they reckoned you only had orphans there with a 50% infection rate throughout the population, an NGO doctor goes in all for charity, goes tests and actually finds only 13% HIV positive results initially, and on a more thorough testing of the HIV positives this went down to 5% infected and he took in these 5% and gave them all moral support from a good place to stay good food and water with vitamins and handled each individual cases condition with what they actually had and 100% recovered meaning at the end of the day there was no AIDS at all, but more starvation and lack of basic human needs, water, food, nutrition and medicine.

Quick conclusion, will update this post more thoroughly.....

HIV/AIDS can just be caught by having the wrong diet, there are plenty of co factors actually co factors of co factors exist, I am not clever enough to do a thorough investigation and research but this is where it is pointing too, more coconut in your diet and less supermarket products, cereals telling you they are good, but they all bad..... you have fruit and nuts, basically get more organic and how many people can afford that now.

How does one virus cause so many different conditions, a virus throughout history only cause 1 condition.

Thanks

HIV/AIDS is a lie by the pharmaceutic industry

The HIV/AIDS disease is caused by a fake diagnose, fear mongering, advertising, lethal HIV-medications, vaccines, corruption, antibiotics, party-drugs and more.

There is no HIV virus.

In Africa and poor countries people die of starvation and not enough nutrion and clean water.

All these homepages questions the reality of HIV/AIDS.

www.tig.org.za/
www.tig.org.za/pdf-files AZT: Unsafe at any dose?
www.theperthgroup.com/
www.iwontgoquietly.com/en
peaceandlove.ca/
aras.ab.ca/
aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm
www.immunity.org.uk/articles.html
www.immunity.org.uk/media/Hector_Continuum_vol3_no4.pdf
www.immunity.org.uk/images/Faith%20Based%20Testing.pdf "faith based HIV testing"
www.immunity.org.uk/articles/Maniotis.htm
www.immunity.org.uk/articles/mwebe.htm
www.immunity.org.uk/articles/Johhny_Trifunovich.htm
liamscheff.com/
www.duesberg.com/
www.virusmyth.com/aids/data2/citations.htm
www.virusmyth.com/aids/award.htm
www.virusmyth.com/aids/censorship.htm Celia Farber
www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/cffatal.htm
www.virusmyth.com/aids/index/azt.htm
letterstotheempire.com/
www.howpositiveareyou.com/
notaids.com/
www.whale.to/b/rappoport.html
helpeachother.us/HIV-AIDS.htm

French version Italian version

www.africa-in-reality.org/aids_is_fake.php
www.aliveandwell.org/html/a_closer_look/questioning_hiv_aids.html
www.serendipity.li/more/cantwell.htm
www.altheal.org/isolation/isolhiv.htm
www.whale.to/m/hiv.html
www.rebirth.co.za/court_rules_hiv_not_proven_to_ca.htm
www.think-fitness.com/html/hiv_never_isolated.html
hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/hiv-
has-never-been-isolated-from-aids-patients
www.virusmyth.com/aids/news/kkletter.htm
www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/Farber_Reply_April_2006.html
www.rethinkingaids.com/quotes/rethinkers.htm
www.healtoronto.com/hiviso.html
www.aliveandwell.org/
www.theothersideofaids.com/meet_the_people.html (warning Robert Gallo created the HIV/AIDS lie)
www.alexalienart.com/sonia.htm
whatifeverything.com/whatif/links.html
www.theperthgroup.com/INTERVIEWS/cjepe.html
www.vaclib.org/links/aids.htm
www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
www.fearoftheinvisible.com/silenced-voices-on-aids
www.avert.org/evidence.htm
ourcivilisation.com/aids/hivexist/index.htm
www.primitivism.com/yin-yang-HIV.htm
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/aids_origin.htm
www.aim.org/aim-column/jeremiah-wrights-controversial-aids-charge
www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/27/202946/893
www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
www.healtoronto.com/mullisnews.html
killtown.911review.org/aids.html
www.tetrahedron.org/articles/iatrogenocide.htm
www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/
www.originofaids.com/articles/early.htm drewnathan.blogspot.com/2006/12/global-aids-massacre.html
groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/
browse_thread/thread/865d4a7d6b33d265/923c220119bc70f7
www.iwilltryit.com/critical2.htm www.iwilltryit.com/critical2.htm
www.blackherbals.com/Mariandina.htm
www.garynull.com/Documents/Continuum/AIDSVaccinesCruelDelusion.htm pages.prodigy.net/johnhunter2/hivaids.htm
onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2830.shtml
www.healtoronto.com/hiviso.html
hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/01/15
/hiv-has-never-been-isolated-from-aids-patients

groups.msn.com/AIDSMythExposed/yourwebpage.msnw
www.positivelyfalse.com/my_content/introduction.html
blackstarmedia.biz/health_watch/HIV_never_isolated.htm
www.thewebfairy.com/911/bingham/Msg03662.html
www.rethinkingaids.com/tabid/108/Default.aspx
www.phatmass.com/phorum/lofiversion/index.php/t55939.html
www.aidsinfobbs.org/redribbon.htm
www.altheal.org/toxicity/debazt.htm
www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm
www.libertyunbound.com/archive/2006_11/kostelanetz-aids.html
www.whatisaids.com/mothering/aztpoisoningbabies.htm
www.harmonikireland.com/index.php?topic=HIV
www.leaflady.org/dr_willner.htm
www.shutterstock.com/pic-2578409-hiv-virus.html real hivfoto?
www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/01/open-thread-678
www.aidsmythexposed.com/
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_horowitz.htm
www.africa-in-reality.org/
sacredearth.org/Kissrock.html
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/07/engineered-aids-part-1.html
www.blackherbals.com/west_nile_virus.htm
www.2000taletsvetenskap.nu/php/viewtopic.php?t=220
notaids.com/en/morehepb
www.orgoniseafrica.com/aids.html
www.biblebelievers.org.au/aids.htm
www.aidsinfobbs.org/
www.helpforhiv.com/videos.htm
www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/
www.primitivism.com/hiv-interview.htm
www.gnhealth.com/Documents/Continuum/IsolationOfHIVPt4.htm
www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2008/04/15/
after_earth_day_rethinking_aids_on_23_april.htm
g0ys.org/homofascists.htm
www.originofaids.com/articles/early.htm
www.whale.to/vaccine/cantwell.html
www.rense.com/general45/cant.htm
www.rense.com/general71/gaycancer.htm
www.healingcelebrations.com/
www.theothersideofaids.com/
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/aids.htm
World Bank, HIV/AIDS, is a Fraud
the real heroes of aids
hiv plus aids=death?
inc

AIDS Dissident: David Crowe Speaks Out (Part 1 of 3)


Q&feature=PlayList&p=E40B4103D755A37C&index=0
www.coreynahman.com/antiHIVdrugdatabase61499.html aidsmedicines


www.healtoronto.com/
www.healsydney.org/
www.heallondon.org/
www.livingwithouthivdrugs.com/
www.rethinkingaids.com/
www.hivwave.gr/pages/en
www.paranoiamagazine.com/revwright.htm
www.africaspeaks.com/articles/2005/0903.html
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/AIDS.HTM
www.whale.to/b/cantwell9.html
blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=320856847
www.banyantreeproject.org/extras/compassion_to_action_poster.pdf
sonic.net/~doretk/ArchiveARCHIVE/Aids/1.%20AIDS%20Biowarfare.html

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10707931372
digg.com/world_news/MSNBC_Exposes_Bayer_Aspirin_AIDS_Scandal
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8567399552051355527
www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
www.rethinkingaids.com/quotes/rethinkers.htm rethinkers
exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/06/aids-in-africa-connecting-dots.html
www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/links.htm
www.hivwave.gr/pages/en

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-266890172132861595
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/aids.htm
chestofbooks.com/health/natural-cure/
Ross-Horne/Health-and-Survival-in-the-
21st-Century/AZT-The-AIDS-Drug-Part-2.html
notaids.com/en/node/9
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/VIENNA.HTM
www.dmi.unipg.it/~mamone/sci-dem/nuocontri/lang_dc_ad.html U.N.AIDS REPORT: 3 MILLION DEAD, $6.1 BILLION SPENT IN 2004
davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv/2004-12-Knights-AIDS.html
www.monarcasmexico.org/
robertscottbell.blogspot.se/2008/07/hiv-aids-gallos-egg.html
www.whale.to/a/brink_b.html
www.omsj.org/innocence-group (We need to find an)
www.omsj.org/blogs/another-md-busts-aids-clerics AIDS, Opium, Diamonds, and Empire by Nancy Turner
www.dougieg.com/no_denial/aids/Questions_and_Answers.pdf
www.oikos.org/aids/articles.htm
www.natural-health-information-centre.com/hiv-aids.html
www.natural-health-information-centre.com/world-without-aids.html
www.natural-health-information-centre.com/hiv-does-not-cause-aids.html
www.dougieg.com/no_denial/aids/Questions_and_Answers.pdf
www.credenceusa.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Book-HIV
www.sidasante.com/azt/debazt2.htm
www.whale.to/vaccine/Janine.pdf
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1394938/posts
aras.ab.ca/rethinkers.php
www.alexalienart.com/sonia.htm
www.openbooks.tig.org.za/
dherbs.com/articles/aids-hiv-207.html
www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/profiles/gilbert/aidsconsp.html
www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html
www.jamesphogan.com/heretics/book.php?titleID=245
scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/08/interview_with_hiv_rethinker_r.php
www.tridd.com/docs/answers/science-sold-out.pdf
www.garynull.com/
hivskeptic.wordpress.com/tag/rebecca-culshaw
truthbarrier.com/
www.heallondon.org/
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/AIDS.HTM
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/NYCNEWS.HTM
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/AIDS.HTM
www.gayandlesbianhumanist.org/ARCHIVE/December%202008/Death%20Cult.htm
paganpressbooks.com/jpl/POPPERS.HTM
hivwave.gr/pages/index.php in greek
www.anderekijk.net/ in Dutch
www.noaids.co.kr/ Korean
davidrasnick.com/AIDS_Blunder.html
www.lulu.com/shop/david-rasnick/germ-of-lies/paperback/product-3570726.html
(don't lie to me about HIV) Handgrenade Nina Hagen Youtube music video
www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html
www.vitalminerals.org/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=16

These people consider AIDS and HIV as real and that HIV virus causes AIDS but they strongly distrust the pharmaceutical industry
They show on other ways to get cured insead of taking HIV-medicals. (I would say you can get cured by eating hamburgers, bananas, carrots and milk as long as you take it instead of your HIV-medications) Colloidal silver is not the only way.
www.DrLenHorowitz.com/
www.robertogiraldo.com/
www.tetrahedron.orgDr/ . Leonard Horowitz
www.boydgraves.com/

Hm.. it feels a little strange to discover the many layers and spectras of the HIV/AIDS fraud.
I guess it took me a while to make up my mind. This link, below can I no longer fully trust, even if I still admire Horowitz.
Many statements here that AIDS is caused by a virus. I don't doubt that the U.S. has biological war labs. But if you go to your hospital and get an HIV test with a positive result then you should not think you have a dangerous HIV-virus.
vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=1749

books
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556436424/research-20
www.amazon.com/World-Without-Aids-Steven-Ransome/dp/0953501256
www.amazon.com/The-AIDS-Indictment-Marvin-Kitzerow/dp/0967952905
www.amazon.com/The-AIDS-Cult-Essays-health/dp/0943742102
www.amazon.com/Prescription-Profits-Pharmaceutical-Industry-Bankrolled/dp/0684800020
www.amazon.com/Dancing-Naked-Mind-Field-Mullis/dp/0679774009
good bye aids by Maria Papagiannidou-St Pierre
www.amazon.com/Medical-Apartheid-Experimentation-Americans-Colonial/dp/0385509936 Medical apartheid
Aids and the doctors of death av Allan Cantwell

HIV has never been isolated in pure form, so that the existence of HIV is questionable as is validation of HIV tests; The existence of HIV has not been proven; HIV tests are unreliable; Pharmaceutical firms know that antiretroviral drugs are ineffective at treating AIDS but effective at causing AIDS (Rath and Farber); AIDS deaths are caused by malnutrition, narcotics, and antiretroviral drugs.

by Liam Scheff

Are you a slave?

Does the government have the right to tell you who you can mate with? Do they own your body? The bodies of your children?

Are you a slave?

And, what are you shopping for today?

I approached the Magic Johnson-sponsored ‘Free HIV testing’ van, in the Fort Lauderdale mall parking lot, and asked the HIV testing dude if I could see a package insert for the magical test. This is the technical instruction and legal disclaimer; the limitations of the medical device – the antibody test.

The HIV testing dude gave me a bit of paper – a PR sheet. I handed it back, and asked again for the test insert. He looked blankly, and handed me the same sheet. He did this twice, and tried a third time. I said, “Don’t give me that paper again – I’m asking for a package insert.”

He eventually gave up, and asked the foreman to come talk to me. A 50-something gay dude came out, and gave me a booklet – the package insert. I opened it, and found the language, as it always appears -

*No, we fooled you, suckers – this is not really a test for hiv…*
“The Clearview Complete HIV assay is intended for use as a point-of-care test to aids in the diagnosis of infection… This test is suitable for use in multi-test algorithms designed for the statistical validation of rapid HIV test results.”

“Algorithms. multiple tests. Aid in diagnosis.”

Not, “This test diagnosis X, Y or Z.”

But, “Uhm, we help, sort of, aid, also, don’t use this test, use others.”

No, it’s not an HIV test. It’s a joke. A tool to make you believe you’re being tested for something…

And on we go:

“The Clearview Complete HIV assay is not approved to screen blood, plasma, cell or tissue donors”

(Wow! Sounds accurate!)

“A reactive test result using the Clearview Complete HIV test suggests the presence of antibodies to HIV…”

(Wow! Scientific! Thanks for the “suggestion!” How very ‘hypnotic’ of you…And how hypnotized you’d have to be to buy any of it).

“The Clearview Complete HIV assay is intended is an aid in the diagnosis of infection with HIV.”

(It’s an “aid!” A ‘helper!’ Not really a test. How wonderfully useless. How grand. How life-changing, for those who don’t bother to read the fine print…)

“A person who has antibodies to HIV is presumed to be infected.. except that a person who has participated in an HIV vaccine study may develop antibodies and may or may not be infected…“

(Uhm… Gosh. Uhm… Who’s doing all of this presuming? I’m going to make another presumption: This isn’t a test for any particular particle. Is that a valid presumption? I think it is…)

The test then states that half of the syphilis-infected blood samples were positive on the “HIV test.”

“AIDS and AIDS-related conditions are clinical syndromes and their diagnosis can only be established clinically.“

Ah, the money shot. We’ll tell you, by looking at you, and seeing what kind of person you are – drug addict, black dude, poor white momma, or gay party boy – whether or not we can affix the “HIV-AIDS” sign to your prow, and you’ll let us make it stick.

“So, does this isn’t an HIV test,” I say to HIV test dude #2. “Why do you tell people that you are giving them a diagnostic test?”

“Oh,” we never say that, said the 50-something gay man, enslaved to the cult. “We send them for a Western Blot.”

“But,” I reply, “The UK doesn’t even use Western Blots. They’re too cross-reactive. They consider them junk. Did you know that?”

“Nooo.” He said.

“Have you ever heard of the Padian study?”

“Noooo,” he said.

And so went the exchange.

I asked if they had people who would come on the radio. He said they had a PR department for that kind of thing. I said, not PR, but a technician, somebody who could handle detailed and specific questions.

Well. We’ll see.

World sex-fraud-terror day is humping toward us… December 1st is the day when you’re supposed to believe that a world of impoverished people need bone-killing drugs more than food and clean water.

Do you believe it?

Are you a slave? Do you entrust a government-pharmaceutical panel, or complex with the delicate fabric of your sexual identity, choices, wishes, dreams, excursions, explorations?

Of your future, your children’s future; their very flesh and blood and bone?

You will know your identity by your response:

Slave. Non-Slave.

You can only check one box.

Free yourself from HIV testing. Turn in your result today – send it back to your doctor, or technician, and tell them you “Presume” otherwise.

And figure out how to care for yourself, without government hand-outs, drugs, permission – or slavery.

And if you want to live your life as a slave – then be my guest. But keep your misery to yourself. I just don’t give a damn anymore about HIV slaves.


Thank you Liam: liamscheff.com/2011/11/are-you-a-slave/

fearoftheinvisible.com/how-the-hiv-papers-came-to-be-fixed liamscheff.com/category/the-aids-investigation/

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Why does the Media since 1997 not report these cases "From HIV positive to HIV negative"?

And there are many more!

CONCLUSIONS: AIDS is a reversible disease. Using medicinal herbs to enhance the immune function will facilitate the appearance of seronegative conversion, which has not been reported before. If it could be further confirmed, its mechanism elucidated, this may greatly strengthen the confidence of the patients.

[A report on 8 seronegative converted HIV/AIDS patients with traditional Chinese medicine].

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9863108

Siya see more under this link what the experts in the field are saying.... Philippe Krynen in Tanzania with an NGO in the end found in the epi center of HIV/AIDs in the end there was no AIDS at all once you give the basic economic rights to the people and development brings in brighter future for the people...

g2cforum.org/index.php/list/hiv-aids/14434-what-really-causes-aids

How do we spread the truth against all the gangster in power controlling the matrix as it where, how many people are ready to get unplugged from the matrix and learn the truth, are people ready for the truth..... do we start a partition for the truth to be know or what suggestion do any of you have.... a demonstration to Trafalgar Square perhaps to demand the government tells us the truth..... a viral video... what will it take to get the truth out....

Love and Peace...

ZnZ:

Ok I get it, the bottom line is that there is a "virus" that eventually affects one's immune system. I think the big question is that does it really cause AIDS? Another point is that there is no' one' solution for everybody... some people don't get any side effects from the ARv's some people die from taking them. Again the question might be are ARV's the solution for the virus? My other question is that if we don't take these "hiv" tests how would one know if they are at risk or not? In your opinion what are other ways of finding out besides being sick. I have heard so much about the other side of the debate, which pushes ARV's and HIV tests, hence am trying to get a different opinion. How can one detect that their immune is compromised? I have learned that there are inaccuracies in these tests, at the same time the "virus" is a reality. Whooo am really getting more confused as am trying to get clarity on this sensitive topic. Again this is to educate myself I'm not for a particular view just trying to get facts from different views, I hope you don't mind my questions. I may have missed some points as I was reading your material but bear with me.

Peace

ZnZ:

Ok I get it, the bottom line is that there is a "virus" that eventually affects one's immune system. I think the big question is that does it really cause AIDS?

No Siya I do not think you got it, HIV virus is harmless and is said to be the probable cause of AIDS but it has never been proven/isolated, there is no real relationship between the two.

Another point is that there is no' one' solution for everybody... some people don't get any side effects from the ARv's some people die from taking them.

As far as I understand practically all those on ARVs eventually die, and side effects are there from just your very first dose, would never touch that poison dear.


Again the question might be are ARV's the solution for the virus?

Common sense tells me if such a virus exists that enters you and stays dormant for 5, 10, 15 years, this must be a first in history of viruses, a very clever virus I must say, how is it possible for ARVs or any drug to be designed by humans that can possible be administered which actually is more intelligent to precisely go into your body and target such a clever virus without causing any damage to all your other organs, no ARVs are no solution to a harmless innocent virus.

My other question is that if we don't take these "hiv" tests how would one know if they are at risk or not?

Listen to your body, myself if my immune system is down I feel it right here below my neck in my chest, I can tell I am weak and should go home and rest and eat well not carry on sitting at the cocktail bar top dawn.

In your opinion what are other ways of finding out besides being sick. I have heard so much about the other side of the debate, which pushes ARV's and HIV tests, hence am trying to get a different opinion. How can one detect that their immune is compromised?

Your body has defenses, the first line of defense is your skin, look yourself in the mirror do you see a healthy you, is that what you want to see, do you look healthy, stick out your tongue have a good look at it, is its colour normal, are your lymph nodes swollen, have a look at your solid wastes, your urine is colour normal, are you losing weight, do you have a good appetite, are you sleeping well etc..... listen to your body, go for a run and see does your body respond to exercise, is your body strong or weak...

I have learned that there are inaccuracies in these tests, at the same time the "virus" is a reality. Whooo am really getting more confused as am trying to get clarity on this sensitive topic. Again this is to educate myself I'm not for a particular view just trying to get facts from different views, I hope you don't mind my questions. I may have missed some points as I was reading your material but bear with me.

Peace

If the virus was reality as in contagious and sexual transmitted as claimed 50% of the population would be dead just in the USA alone dont you think, HIV infected Americans are at about 1 million, this has been steady for a number of years now, but for those developing AIDS the numbers are falling yearly I believe, there is no corresponding figures that back up the theory HIV causes AIDS.

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