Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method

So i understand that the method of making cds with the baby bottle is out... that its been too dangerous. So the new method is what? and uses what equipment?

Please correct me if I am wrong...

use a glass jar with a plastic lid filled with distilled water about 1 inch at the top for air.. Place a glass cup inside to hold the MMS and citric acid. Place the cup in the water but this cup must rise above the water level so no water gets into it. add one ounce of mms and one ounce of citric acid. after placed put a lid on the jar.

let it sit overnight at 70 degrees. When its done carefully remove the cup without spilling the MMS/citric acid out into the water.

What you have now is cds. Store in frige.

I need to know what size jar to use. Must it be glass or is plastic ok? any recommendations on what jar to purchase and where? I know the elite ball is recommended for travel but Im wanting to make larger batches.

If you use a one quart jar with one ounce of mms and one ounce of activator what ppm cds will you end up with?

Is chlorine dioxide test strips the best method for getting ppms

thanks

Arrow, there are 4 downloadable PDF files here mmsinfo.org/ that will explain how to make CDS using the shot glass/overnight method. I spent over one year running all those tests and documenting the procedure as best I could. When I have time, I would like to make a short video on the process. But, that really isn't necessary as it is very simple. Here are the directions from the CDS Travel Kit PDF file:

6. Procedure to make 3000 ppm CDS:

A. Fill the receiver with 240 ml (8 fl oz US) of distilled water.

B. Put 12 ml of MMS1 and 12 ml of 50% citric acid in the reactor container. Swirl and put inside the receiver. Tighten lid & keep in a dark place.

C. After 12 hours, remove the reactor and discard the solution. Refrigerate the CDS. Simple!

Yes, it does make a difference in the ClO2 concentration if you use different containers or activate at a different temperature. Using LaMotte high range ClO2 test strips will tell you the concentration. If you get a concentration different from 3000 ppm, the dosing chart will show how much to use as per Protocol 101.

Let us know how this works for you.

Thanks JB13.

Im teaching a class in oxidative therapies soon and really need to get updated on how to use mms, as I've been suffering though the old applications for too long and dont really want to promote that pathway.

So I assume that the plastic lid is essental to prevent explosion of the glass container.

Can we also assume that if measurements are correct in mms, AC and distilled water that the outcome will always be near to 3,000 ppm. Do I really need to purchase test strips and make everyone else do the same?

thanks

also do you have an opinon on adding unactivated mms to the cds solution at time of ingestion? I've been reading a few comments on that. I use unactivated mms on my animals all the time with good results for bad breath.

I have to order these things on line. This bottle by mason should work for the travel kit assembly?

www.amazon.com/Bernardin-Collection-Elite-Mason-Jars/dp/B002BUCST8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370973575&sr=8-1&keywords=500ml+ball+wide+mouth+canning+jar

Yes, the pint elite jar. The white plastic cap I found in the canning seciton of my grocery. I had to hunt a bit for the 2x2.5" votive candle holder - found one at Michaels. The 12mL syringe barrel I found at the farm and pet store.

The whole travel kit is at wps4sale.com
www.wps4sale.com/store/cds-generation/overnight-travel-cds-generating-kit-detail


Pam

Hi Arrow.

The metal lid will be attacked by the ClO2 so it won't last.

Three people, including me, have made CDS with this equipment setup and 12 ml of MMSU and 12 ml of 50% citric acid and all measured about 3000 ppm using LaMotte high range test strips. That assumes the temperature of ingredients and equipment are about 70 degrees F for 12 hours. If colder, wait longer and you should have 3000 ppm.

I found the Ball canning jars, plastic lids and glass votive candle holders at a local hardware store and each set cost less than $5.00. Since the jars come in a 4 pack, I bought them, 4 votive candle holders and a box of 8 lids. I have given away a few sets already and at the price, I can afford to do so.

Test strips are a good idea, but once you test your CDS, and you make it the same way each time, you probably don't need to measure it again. You could invest in one container of test strips and share them with your students. As Jim pointed out, if you cut them lengthwise, you now have 100 strips instead of the 50 you originally bought!

You do need the container with the color code on the side however, so sharing strips could be a problem. Maybe make color photo copies of the color code? Remember to dilute 1 ml of CDS sample solution in 60 ml of distilled when measuring the ppm. You want to read a mid-scale color so your eye can see subtle color differences that won't be possible at the high end of the color code. Multiply the reading from the color code by 60 to arrive at the CDS ppm.

I am interested in learning more about CDS+ but have not tried that yet.

Also, I am interested in trying Scott's 7 Day Fridge MMS and see how that works. He is on to something with that method that we don't yet understand. We need more volunteer testers!

I live over 100 miles from a city with shopping options. Our local grocery store carries not the elite but these 16 ounce jars as seen in the link below. Has anyone used this type? My understanding is that the elite jars are harder to break.. but at $26 for 4 all I can say is ouch! These are $6 for 4 jars. Think they would be OK?

www.target.com/p/ball-glass-preserving-jars-16oz/-/A-12911522#prodSlot=medium_1_7&term=elite+ball+jars

OK, I can see from JB13's post that if his set cost about $5 then he is not using the elite jars but the regular ball canning jars, so they must be working fine.

One more thing. Im looking at test strips at LaMott on this page: www.lamotte.com/pool_spa_water/instatest.html I dont see any that say for chlorine dioxide. Can you please tell me which one to get?

Thank you all for your input at clarifying this. Guess I will get the test strips and see if I can manage to make accurate color copies of the ppm grading scale. It would be nice to have a few complete sets to pass on during the class. That will really help people to get going on this.

Go to this page - it's the high range chlorine dioxide
www.lamotte.com/component/option,com_pages/lang,en/mid,162/page,130/task,item/

I got mine at WWGrainger - may be able to find some on ebay or amazon, but the last I looked Amazon was out.

I particularly like the elite jars because they're squat, so the votive candle holder definitely is taller (at 2.5") than the water level, which has spread out. You can try a pint wide mouth canning jar, but check to see that the votive candle holder fits. Arrow, email me, pls, at the email address in my sig line.

Arrow, this is what I purchased; set of 4 Ball 500 ml wide-mouth Elite Collection. The shape is important, almost a cube and not tall, with a wide mouth. Note the price! When I say the set cost $5.00, I mean the set of three items cost $5.00; 500 ml jar, cap & candle holder.



wps4sale.com carries the test strips.