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10 Feb 2012 04:15 #12083
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Dear David,
Your contributions are always amazing. I believe I read almost every word you wrote on this forum a couple of times
Today´s world and the money oriented society make it really challenging for us to lead a healthy lifestyle. Believe it or not, even though I now live in Brazil, it´s really difficult to find organic food, and when you do find, prices are terrible!
I was naive and thought for a long time that soy was ok... well, I was wrong. Just one more poison with a great marketing wave it seems.
I already try to avoid all refined sugar (except for honey) and try to eat as organically and raw as possible. No alcohol at all, no drugs, no dairy products, lots of exercise and faith.
Now, it´s great to read that vit. C might not be that harmful for MMS2...
I´ll keep you posted on my progress and hope everything is great with you.
Peace, Love and Health to everyone,
Chris, Brazil
Your contributions are always amazing. I believe I read almost every word you wrote on this forum a couple of times
Today´s world and the money oriented society make it really challenging for us to lead a healthy lifestyle. Believe it or not, even though I now live in Brazil, it´s really difficult to find organic food, and when you do find, prices are terrible!
I was naive and thought for a long time that soy was ok... well, I was wrong. Just one more poison with a great marketing wave it seems.
I already try to avoid all refined sugar (except for honey) and try to eat as organically and raw as possible. No alcohol at all, no drugs, no dairy products, lots of exercise and faith.
Now, it´s great to read that vit. C might not be that harmful for MMS2...
I´ll keep you posted on my progress and hope everything is great with you.
Peace, Love and Health to everyone,
Chris, Brazil
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10 Feb 2012 08:21 #12095
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Hi Chris,
Thanks and note the Vit C thing with MMS2 is my initiative thinking, as with MMS1 you always get a very strong warning regarding Vit C but with MMS2 I do see often such strong warnings, you should be alright, MMS2 is very powerful stuff and it raises your immunity system, works a bit different then MMS1 that punctures a whole in pathogens to destroy them.
Please someone do correct me....... do not assume I am correct hit the library and do your research, might even feed you false info to keep you on your toes.....
Organic is Healthier..... THIS IS A NUTRITIONAL LIE..........
Did you know that there are over 77,000 known synthetic chemicals that have been manufactured since the 1940's?
They are lurking in the food we eat, the water we drink, and the air we breathe.
These toxins enter our bodies through our skin, lungs, eyes, and mouth.
So it’s no wonder that our bodies have become increasingly toxic and prone to disease.
We have reached our toxic threshold.
The allure of organic foods is that they aren supposedn to be free of pesticides and chemicals and for this reason they arenvery important.
And yes, you should consume more of them simply because you wouldn’t be ingesting as many chemicals.
But there’s another common misconception about organics…
Are organic foods really healthier than conventionally raised foods?
Do they contain greater amounts of vital nutrients?
Interestingly, many studies show that there’s little (if any) difference. In one study (the first of its kind), looking at retention of minerals and trace elements, published in the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, animals were fed a diet consisting of crops grownn using three different cultivation methods in two seasons.
The study looked at the crops of common foods suchn as carrots, kale, mature peas, apples and potatoes.
The first cultivation method consisted of growing the vegetables on soil, which had a nlow input of nutrients using animal manure and no pesticides.
The second method involved applying a low input of nutrients using animal manure, combined with use of pesticides, as much as allowed by regulation.
Finally, the third method comprised a combination of a high input of nutrients through mineral fertilizers and pesticides as legally allowed (conventional growing method).
The crops were grown on the same or similar soil on adjacent fields at the same time and so experienced the same weather conditions.
All werenharvestednand treated at the same time. In the case of the organically grown vegetables, all were grown on established organic soil.
After harvest, results showed that there were no differences in the levels of major and trace nutrients in the fruit and vegetables grown using the threendifferent methods!
Produce from the organically and conventionally grown crops were then fed to animals over a two year period and intake and excretion of various minerals and trace elements were measured.
Once again, the results showed there was no difference in retention of the elements regardless of how the crops were grown.
In some studies, small differences have been shown.
For instance, a large review of some 400 previous "organic vs. conventional food" papers
concluded that organic crops appear to be higher in vitamin C, some essential minerals (calcium, magnesium, iron and chromium), and phytonutrients (lycopene in tomatoes, polyphenols in potatoes, flavonols in apples, and resveratrol in red wine).
Shedding Light on a Controversial Subject
There have been some dominant trends in the literature regarding the nutrient quality of natural
organic foods.
They are the following:
• Protein content is usually higher in conventional foods (due to highern nitrogen input from non-‐organic fertilizers), but the protein quality is greater in organically grown foods.
• Roughly 59% of studies have shown that vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is higher in organically grown fruits and vegetables.
One of the speculated reasons is that under natural stressors, plants will produce more vitamin C as a defense mechanism.
Pretty cool!
Other vitamins show little difference between either growing method.
• Less than 20% of studies have shown that important minerals like calcium, magnesium, zinc, and iron are greater in conventionally grown foods.
Instead, roughly 80% of studies have concluded that organically grown foods have equal or higher amounts of these essential minerals.
• Studies consistently show that the levels of defense-‐related "secondary metabolites" (or phytonutrients) are also higher in organic foods.
As with vitamin C, these compounds develop out of the plant's need to defend itself from natural stressors.
Kristensen, M. et al (2008).
Effect of plant cultivation methods on content of major and trace elements in foodstuffs and retention in rats.
Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, Aug 5.
Importantly, for humans, these phytonutrients are the real disease-‐fighting compounds that are now helping us prevent cancer, heart disease, and many other degenerative diseases!
• An overwhelming majority ofanimal studies show that animals prefer and thrive on organic foods.
Findings such as better health, less disease, healthier body weight, increased fertility, healthier off-‐spring, and lower deaths at birthnare just some of the benefits of raising animals onorganic foods.2
At the end of the day, the fact still remains that the nutrient quality differences between organic and non-‐organic foods are still quite small (except for the levels of phytonutrients in organics).
The USDA even says that at this time the evidence is unclear as to whether organic foods pack more nutrient punch.
So whether or not organic foods are worth the price difference is up to you.
However… If you have the choice and the means,
ALWAYS choose organic – simply because ingesting toxins and chemicals is deadly.
Plus, it's the way we've farmed since the beginning of time (until recently).
Funny, how we now have to pay more for a natural method of farming, isn’t it??
Heaton S
(2001): Organic Farming, Food Quality and Human Health: A Review of the Evidence.
Bristol: Soil Association.
Mr. Brazil......
Heres some extra info regarding soy products, its destroying your Amozon Forest and will bring and end to all of us as we are all connected...
In the last 50 years, so has become the food industry's "go-to" filler for any and all food products.
It isn't only used for meat production but due to its 18% concentration of omega-‐6 fatty acids, it has also been heavily used in thebprocessing of snack foods.
According to records held by the Chicago Board of Trade, in 1965 global soybean production was just 30m tons. By 2005, the world was consuming nine times that a year, at 270m tons. Likewise, world soy oil production, meanwhile, has increased sevenfold over the same period, from 5m tons to 34m tons a year. And to feed the growing demand for soy in food, new agricultural frontiers continue to be opened up in Brazil, where massive areas of virgin rainforest have been illegally felled to make room for the crop.
In fact, research has shown that since 1990, soy production, exports, and the related destruction of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil has increased 14.1% per year, and with no end in sight.
Auch........
Thanks and note the Vit C thing with MMS2 is my initiative thinking, as with MMS1 you always get a very strong warning regarding Vit C but with MMS2 I do see often such strong warnings, you should be alright, MMS2 is very powerful stuff and it raises your immunity system, works a bit different then MMS1 that punctures a whole in pathogens to destroy them.
Please someone do correct me....... do not assume I am correct hit the library and do your research, might even feed you false info to keep you on your toes.....
Organic is Healthier..... THIS IS A NUTRITIONAL LIE..........
Did you know that there are over 77,000 known synthetic chemicals that have been manufactured since the 1940's?
They are lurking in the food we eat, the water we drink, and the air we breathe.
These toxins enter our bodies through our skin, lungs, eyes, and mouth.
So it’s no wonder that our bodies have become increasingly toxic and prone to disease.
We have reached our toxic threshold.
The allure of organic foods is that they aren supposedn to be free of pesticides and chemicals and for this reason they arenvery important.
And yes, you should consume more of them simply because you wouldn’t be ingesting as many chemicals.
But there’s another common misconception about organics…
Are organic foods really healthier than conventionally raised foods?
Do they contain greater amounts of vital nutrients?
Interestingly, many studies show that there’s little (if any) difference. In one study (the first of its kind), looking at retention of minerals and trace elements, published in the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, animals were fed a diet consisting of crops grownn using three different cultivation methods in two seasons.
The study looked at the crops of common foods suchn as carrots, kale, mature peas, apples and potatoes.
The first cultivation method consisted of growing the vegetables on soil, which had a nlow input of nutrients using animal manure and no pesticides.
The second method involved applying a low input of nutrients using animal manure, combined with use of pesticides, as much as allowed by regulation.
Finally, the third method comprised a combination of a high input of nutrients through mineral fertilizers and pesticides as legally allowed (conventional growing method).
The crops were grown on the same or similar soil on adjacent fields at the same time and so experienced the same weather conditions.
All werenharvestednand treated at the same time. In the case of the organically grown vegetables, all were grown on established organic soil.
After harvest, results showed that there were no differences in the levels of major and trace nutrients in the fruit and vegetables grown using the threendifferent methods!
Produce from the organically and conventionally grown crops were then fed to animals over a two year period and intake and excretion of various minerals and trace elements were measured.
Once again, the results showed there was no difference in retention of the elements regardless of how the crops were grown.
In some studies, small differences have been shown.
For instance, a large review of some 400 previous "organic vs. conventional food" papers
concluded that organic crops appear to be higher in vitamin C, some essential minerals (calcium, magnesium, iron and chromium), and phytonutrients (lycopene in tomatoes, polyphenols in potatoes, flavonols in apples, and resveratrol in red wine).
Shedding Light on a Controversial Subject
There have been some dominant trends in the literature regarding the nutrient quality of natural
organic foods.
They are the following:
• Protein content is usually higher in conventional foods (due to highern nitrogen input from non-‐organic fertilizers), but the protein quality is greater in organically grown foods.
• Roughly 59% of studies have shown that vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is higher in organically grown fruits and vegetables.
One of the speculated reasons is that under natural stressors, plants will produce more vitamin C as a defense mechanism.
Pretty cool!
Other vitamins show little difference between either growing method.
• Less than 20% of studies have shown that important minerals like calcium, magnesium, zinc, and iron are greater in conventionally grown foods.
Instead, roughly 80% of studies have concluded that organically grown foods have equal or higher amounts of these essential minerals.
• Studies consistently show that the levels of defense-‐related "secondary metabolites" (or phytonutrients) are also higher in organic foods.
As with vitamin C, these compounds develop out of the plant's need to defend itself from natural stressors.
Kristensen, M. et al (2008).
Effect of plant cultivation methods on content of major and trace elements in foodstuffs and retention in rats.
Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, Aug 5.
Importantly, for humans, these phytonutrients are the real disease-‐fighting compounds that are now helping us prevent cancer, heart disease, and many other degenerative diseases!
• An overwhelming majority ofanimal studies show that animals prefer and thrive on organic foods.
Findings such as better health, less disease, healthier body weight, increased fertility, healthier off-‐spring, and lower deaths at birthnare just some of the benefits of raising animals onorganic foods.2
At the end of the day, the fact still remains that the nutrient quality differences between organic and non-‐organic foods are still quite small (except for the levels of phytonutrients in organics).
The USDA even says that at this time the evidence is unclear as to whether organic foods pack more nutrient punch.
So whether or not organic foods are worth the price difference is up to you.
However… If you have the choice and the means,
ALWAYS choose organic – simply because ingesting toxins and chemicals is deadly.
Plus, it's the way we've farmed since the beginning of time (until recently).
Funny, how we now have to pay more for a natural method of farming, isn’t it??
Heaton S
(2001): Organic Farming, Food Quality and Human Health: A Review of the Evidence.
Bristol: Soil Association.
Mr. Brazil......
Heres some extra info regarding soy products, its destroying your Amozon Forest and will bring and end to all of us as we are all connected...
In the last 50 years, so has become the food industry's "go-to" filler for any and all food products.
It isn't only used for meat production but due to its 18% concentration of omega-‐6 fatty acids, it has also been heavily used in thebprocessing of snack foods.
According to records held by the Chicago Board of Trade, in 1965 global soybean production was just 30m tons. By 2005, the world was consuming nine times that a year, at 270m tons. Likewise, world soy oil production, meanwhile, has increased sevenfold over the same period, from 5m tons to 34m tons a year. And to feed the growing demand for soy in food, new agricultural frontiers continue to be opened up in Brazil, where massive areas of virgin rainforest have been illegally felled to make room for the crop.
In fact, research has shown that since 1990, soy production, exports, and the related destruction of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil has increased 14.1% per year, and with no end in sight.
Auch........
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10 Feb 2012 14:51 #12133
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Thanks again, David.
Just to be safe, I think I´ll go for an extra 2, 3 weeks on protocol 4000 without ingestion of soy milk whatsoever.
Interesting stuff on organic food! Jeez, what can we trust?
I also read your posts on black seed oil and was planning on adding that to my diet. I found someone who would sell to Brazil (since I could not find it here) but I think it might get stuck at customs. Two months ago, I bought 1000 gelatin capsules in order to make my MMS2 capsules and guess what: they got stuck by Brazilian FDA. A lot of paper work and extra taxes to make them give me the capsules, can you believe it? If I had that amount of work with empty capsules, I can only imagine the trouble they´ll give me for a couple of bottles of oil!
I had heard of the relation between rain forest massive destruction and soy fields. The Amazon forest is amazing, I had a chance to be there once, and I pray the next generations will still have this forest around during their lifetime.
Peace, love and health to everyone
Chris, from Brazil
Just to be safe, I think I´ll go for an extra 2, 3 weeks on protocol 4000 without ingestion of soy milk whatsoever.
Interesting stuff on organic food! Jeez, what can we trust?
I also read your posts on black seed oil and was planning on adding that to my diet. I found someone who would sell to Brazil (since I could not find it here) but I think it might get stuck at customs. Two months ago, I bought 1000 gelatin capsules in order to make my MMS2 capsules and guess what: they got stuck by Brazilian FDA. A lot of paper work and extra taxes to make them give me the capsules, can you believe it? If I had that amount of work with empty capsules, I can only imagine the trouble they´ll give me for a couple of bottles of oil!
I had heard of the relation between rain forest massive destruction and soy fields. The Amazon forest is amazing, I had a chance to be there once, and I pray the next generations will still have this forest around during their lifetime.
Peace, love and health to everyone
Chris, from Brazil
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11 Feb 2012 18:59 #12258
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Hey, David,
Brazilian nuts I can find here at every corner!!! And pretty cheap! We could definitely trade
I even tried finding blackseed around indian spice stores, african food import stores.... nada. nothing. If Brazilian Nuts are hard for you to find, I'll be glad to send you a bunch!
Peace, Love and Health to everyone
Chris, from Brazil
Replied by Fort on topic Re: Really Important Question
Hey, David,
Brazilian nuts I can find here at every corner!!! And pretty cheap! We could definitely trade
I even tried finding blackseed around indian spice stores, african food import stores.... nada. nothing. If Brazilian Nuts are hard for you to find, I'll be glad to send you a bunch!
Peace, Love and Health to everyone
Chris, from Brazil
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13 Feb 2012 14:56 #12409
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Deal, David.
Brazilian Nuts on the way
But here´s one stupid question: how do I send you a private message with my address??
Peace, Love and Health to everyone!
Brazilian Nuts on the way
But here´s one stupid question: how do I send you a private message with my address??
Peace, Love and Health to everyone!
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