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01 Apr 2014 14:50 #42470 by K9x9
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I am having a problem with Robyn. When I got home I backed her dose down to 4 drops in her food. All went well. I gave her another 4 drops in a little bit of food the next hour. Was fine until a little over an hour and then threw up. I managed to get some MSM/DMO on her muzzle. She didn't want to touch her food but ate a small dog biscuit which stayed down. Left some food for her for overnight but she didn't touch it.

This morning I just gave her food- no MSM. Unactivated in her water. 20 minutes later she threw her food up.

She is outside again while I am at work. She is still peppy. I am just afraid she is not getting enough food in her system.

I think I will have to not giver her any MSM until she keeps food down. I hate doing that as it appears her mouth tumor has not grown any larger. It almost feels a little smaller when I measure with my hands on her muzzle. Not dramatic but maybe a little smaller.

Any suggestions? I know we will lose time if I completely stop it but she needs the nutrition. Luckily she was a little overweight so has a little reserve. She is a little leery of food because she has thrown up.

If I stop for a day then maybe start with just one drop?

Thanks for any help.
Barb

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01 Apr 2014 17:32 #42486 by Horsefeathers
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Yes! Stop till her system rebalances and settles down. You might want to help her with some Pepto if she'll take it. Comes in liquid and pill form. Then start over and work up carefully. That is what I had to do with my Lady. Her muzzle may be sore from the MMS and DMSO. My horse was sensitive to DMSO and I had to go to just MMS. Perhaps alternate it? Hate to see you loose ground if the tumor is getting smaller. Also, check into Bentonite Living Clay. It will help clear the body of toxins. I give it to my new, used dog Biscuit, in her food. I make up some and store it in a jar then put some in with her meal and add a little bit of water if it seems to thick. She also gets a bit of canned food with her kibble to help it all taste good. And, Little Miss Fuss Budget seems to gobble it up quite well. May be able to hide some MMS in there?
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01 Apr 2014 17:52 #42490 by K9x9
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Thnak you so much for responding! This is all new to me and I hate to do trial and error on Robyn as she is the one who suffers. I will rest her today and see if she keeps the food down. I won't even put the MMS in her water and then will start at a smaller dose.

Is there some other place I can put the MSM/DMSO that will get in her system other than her muzzle? Rev Ray said to put it as close as possible. Her tumor on the roof of her mouth looked better after I put some there but I don't think she will let me do that again as I felt it probably stung.

I will try the pepto. I have some slippery elm I was going to use when I got home but I will use pepto.

I will look into the clay but I live in a rural area so everything usually has to be done online.

Robyn & I thank you,
Barb

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01 Apr 2014 18:14 - 01 Apr 2014 18:21 #42492 by Horsefeathers
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Yes, I had to get mine online as well. I would suggest using the brand Living Clay if you chose to add that. You might find some in a health food store if there is one near you. Also, if you do use clay, it might help soothe the soreness on her muzzle.

You might want to try some MMS and clay paste? Perhaps someone else can chime in with some helpful ideas.

I know what you mean. I hate having to do hit and miss but I figure at least I tried! It must be better than doing nothing as we all know what that outcome will be for sure!

If you choose to do so here is a link for the clay I use. At the moment it is still free shipping for orders of 40$ or more. www.naturescleansingclay.com/newsletter_specials.htm
I have talked to these people on the phone and they are real nice. You might want to check and see if you can get something "next day" if you are willing to pay shipping. Don't hesitate to call their number. They do respond as quickly as possible!
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01 Apr 2014 22:07 #42508 by K9x9
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I have ordered the clay and it will be shipped priority mail so probably 3 days.

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02 Apr 2014 12:25 #42554 by K9x9
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Thank you Rev Ray for taking time to help Robyn. Robyn kept her food down yesterday and this morning so will start up the MMS again today but lower dose and build. I will add the DMSO internal also and try to apply the mixture somewhere she will tolerate. I would love to get it on her tumor in her mouth as that appeared to make a change in the color of it not as firery red.

I feel bad I gave her a setback but was trying to get a hold on this cancer.

Is the clay ok to use or does it counteract the MMS at all?

Thanks so much

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03 Apr 2014 13:30 #42598 by K9x9
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Just an update-
We are back on MMS1 as of yesterday. I cut back to 2 drops MMS/DMSO. I syringed one dose into her and put capsules for two other doses. Robyn has held her food down. I moved to syringing 3 drops this AM. She has unactivated MMS in her water so she can get it into her system while I am at work. I will try 4 drops when I get home and check for nausea.

Unfortunately, Robyn is a very smart dog and will not eat any food that she ate when she was throwing up. So I need to go slowly as much s I would like to give her more.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to rub the MMS/DMSO on a dog? She won't let me put it on the roof of her mouth or muzzle anymore. I have gotten some under her lower jaw. The tumor is on the roof of her mouth and up behind her upper gum, nose area. She has thick fur so should I continue trying to get the lower jaw or try her foot pads?

Also, how do you prevent the capsules from disintegrating while you wait to add the DMSO and give to dog? They start to melt just as I try to give it to her.

Thanks in advance,
Barb & Robyn

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03 Apr 2014 15:40 #42607 by K9x9
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OK Rev Ray. I will try and give her more drops. I just don't want her throwing up again. I will also add back some of the grains of MMS2 capsule a couple of times a day. I will try to keep applying the MMS/DMSO and will try to use MMS?DMSO as a spray in her mouth.

She is fighting me quite a bit.

Here is believing it will keep her from nausea.

Barb

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03 Apr 2014 23:05 - 03 Apr 2014 23:10 #42627 by Rev Glenda
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Barb - I have been away from the forum for awhile and have just read through your thread.
Know that I am praying for you and Robyn. I know the pain that you are going through with worrying over your Best friend. I just recently went through a very trying time with my sick Little Scot (Scottish Terrier). He did not have cancer, but I was really afraid I would lose him. All the ones on the forum were so VERY helpful to me and I LIKE you, was really scared. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS: DO NOT GIVE UP -- DO NOT QUIT, no matter what the vets say. Mine did not know what to do - had no more ideas. I said, fine God and MMS will heal my baby.

I know nothing about giving the dog MMS2 - I only did activated MMS via a syringe and then I also had it in an enclosed water container, where it let out a little at a time. In it I put 10 to 20 drops of UNACTIVATED MMS. My container was a gallon, but I only did 1/2 gal at a time, and I changed the water every other day. I used reverse osmosis water for his drinking water and distilled for what I gave him by mouth.

When I first started out, I had been giving him the full 1/2 drop - 13 ml (he only weighed 16 lbs). He improved, then went backwards, so I decreased his syringe dosage to only 3 ml. I don't remember for sure who, told me that the main thing was to constantly keep dosing him (even if I only gave him a smidgen of MMS). The main thing is to keep it in him - some days, I only did it for 4 straight hours, never did do it for the 8 hrs, seemed too much for him.

In the beginning, I was also giving him DMSO in his MMS - I stopped that and did just the MMS, but again, mine did not have cancer.

When I backed down, he started gradually improving daily. I had to come up with things to
get him to eat - made him special things, such as: I dipped chunks of bread in oatmeal and I hand fed it to him, fixed him fried or scrambled eggs, cooked rice, cottage cheese, Velveeta cheese. You can give them the french green beans chopped up. My guy loves the baby carrots, and will eat them when nothing else works, makes great treats. You can hide lots of things in his favorite things. I also got some chicken fat and dribbled that over his food.

What I started doing with the syringe, is have a very small treat ready to give to Scot and put it in front of him, where he could see it and the minute his dose was done, he got the treat. Of course all the way through the dose going in (which by the way was VERY slowly, so he wouldn't gag) he was told how wonderful he was. They also know you are trying to help them and all that extra loving helps too.

For his pills, you can roll his pills up in a ball of Velveeta it and they will gobble it down. You could also put them in a glob of peanut butter, most dogs love it. Anything to get them to take the pills and it sorta coats the pill too and takes away the taste.

I had read that if they are on MMS2 it is VERY important to get lots of water in them to keep from the nausea and diarrhea - I had read that if you give them chicken broth, it will make them thirsty and the broth itself if also liquid, so that should help. You could also maybe put the grains of MMS2 in her favorite thing, like the Velveeta or peanut butter

I hope some of this helps you - You have gotten very good advice from Rev Ray and Denise, they both were a tremendous help to me.

Just re read your one post -

applying the MMS/DMSO and will try to use MMS?DMSO as a spray in her mouth.

THE SPRAY sounds like a really great way to do the roof of her mouth.

Be encouraged - Be blessed Glenda :cheer:

Be Blessed! I am! :cheer: God & MMS have healed my "Lil Scot" !
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04 Apr 2014 15:54 #42670 by K9x9
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Thank you Glenda. I needed the encourgement this morning.

I am quite depressed today. I increased to 4 drops MMS/DMSO yesterday afternoon and syringed it into Robyn. She then went off to run around with her sister. I brought them in and then fed them dinner. Robyn ate her food happily. 20 minutes after the MMS she had an episode of diarrhea and five minutes after she threw up her dinner. She was pretty quiet.

Two hours after that she cautiously ate some chicken breast. 15 minutes later I applied some MMS/DMSo to her lower jaw and sprayed MMS/DMSO on her gums and roof of her mouth. She was still pretty quiet not her energetic self. She drank a lot of water and then threw up the chicken. My guess was she felt nauseous and drank the water to throw up. She was quiet the rest of the night and refused water or food and slept on my bed.

This morning she was her perky self again. She ate a little hamburger as she wouldn't eat any of the previous food and kept that down. She has unactivated MMS in her water until I get home and figure out what to do next.

She is not getting enough MMS. Last weekend she had 8 drops MMS four times a day plus MMS2 grains. The only difference was adding the DMSO. Would that make her sick?

The tumor isn't any larger that I can tell but I am afraid I am going to lose her because I can't get the MMS to stay down. I know it will help her as it seemed the tumor stopped growing when I started the aggressive protocol last weekend.

It is hard to reason with a dog who is suspicious of food now and doesn't want you touching their mouth. I am sad.

Barb

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